At the end of a busy day at the United Nations on Tuesday, Prime Minister Mark Carney was asked by a reporter how he could still have confidence in Public Safety Minister Gary Anandasangaree, who has been staggered this week by the release of a recorded conversation in which he casts some doubt on the government’s buyback program for “assault-style” firearms.
“Let’s first put this in context, which is that we’re talking about fulfilling a campaign promise. We ran on this first and foremost. Secondly, we’re talking about taking guns off the street in a voluntary fashion,” he said.
“Decisions have been taken by Parliament, in previous parliaments, to ban them. So we have a [mechanism] in place in order for people to return them, consistent with decisions of Parliament, consistent with an election platform on which we ran and on which we were elected. And this is fulfilling that and so the minister is doing important work.”
This was all interesting context. But since the prime minister had not specifically commented on the nature, extent or existence of his confidence in the minister, the reporter asked him to clarify.
Speaking at a news conference in New York on Tuesday, Prime Minister Mark Carney said he has confidence in Public Safety Minister Gary Anandasangaree after Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre said the minister should be fired for his comments about the Liberal gun buyback program.
“I have confidence in the minister,” Carney clarified. “He’s doing important work. He’s got a lot of important work this session of Parliament including legislation on borders and others.”
Of course, unless or until a prime minister is ready to actually dispatch a minister from cabinet, there is really only one possible answer — the prime minister has to have confidence in him (or at least publicly claim to).
But it probably felt necessary to ask the question.
On Monday, the Conservatives had been content to use the recording to merely mock the government side. By Tuesday, the Official Opposition wanted to see Anandasangaree removed from the cabinet.
“When will the prime minister fire this minister?” Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre asked at question period, as Carney was 600 kilometres or so out of earshot. He continued asking the question when Carney returned to the House on Wednesday.
Embattled Public Safety Minister Gary Anandasangaree tells Power & Politics ‘I’m resolved to do my job’ as Conservatives call for his firing over comments made in a leaked audio recording on the federal gun buyback program. Anandasangaree says the comments about bailing out a gun owner who might not comply with the program were made ‘in jest’ and that the program will help lessen gun crime.
This probably now qualifies as the first political firestorm of Carney’s time as prime minister. And so far he seems content to hope it burns itself out.
The tale of the tape
On the tape — apparently recorded by Anandasangaree’s tenant and then provided to a gun owners’ advocacy group — the minister indicates that he might have done things differently if he’d been in charge of the program from the start and references the fact that voters in Quebec have strong feelings about gun control. Coming on the eve of the minister’s attempt to move forward with a contentious and much-delayed buyback program, it’s fair to say his comments were at least inconvenient to the Liberal cause.
Ever since the Liberals retained power after the spring election, it has been tempting to wonder how quick Carney — a purportedly demanding boss — might be to demote or dispatch ministers who fail either politically or practically. And Anandasangaree’s comments were unfortunate enough that his position seemed suddenly very tenuous.
Public Safety Minister Gary Anandasangaree was on the defensive while announcing details of a federal gun buyback program after he was recorded speaking about major flaws with the program.
But the last several prime ministers have operated on the understanding that there’s not much to be gained from dumping a minister (except in particularly egregious cases). As Brian Mulroney, who fired his fair share of ministers, wrote in his memoirs, the dumping of a minister only becomes another data point that can be wielded against the government.
Which is not to say that Anandasangaree’s position is safe. It just might be a while before the prime minister finds an opportunity to move him along.
But in the immediate term, the government is suffering through some bad days — questions about the minister’s private comments swamped his policy announcement on Tuesday. And in the long term, whoever is public safety minister is going to have an even harder time carrying out a highly scrutinized buyback program.
Duck hunters and dollars
Back in Ottawa, Carney tried to play offence.
Poilievre charged that by directing precious resources to a program that would not deal with illegally possessed firearms, the prime minister was putting lives at risk. Carney came back to say it was the Conservative leader who put lives at risk by voting against Liberal gun control legislation.
Poilievre said the government was threatening to take away “Grandpa Joe’s” hunting rifle. Carney tried to counter that duck hunters didn’t need AR-15s.
But the Conservative leader countered that the Liberal program also covers .22-calibre firearms that farmers use to kill gophers — and suggested that Carney needed to be better briefed on the details.
The Power Panel discusses the political fallout as Public Safety Minister Gary Anandasangaree faces calls that he should be fired over comments made in a leaked audio recording on the federal gun buyback program, suggesting police don’t have enough funding to enforce it.
The fact that Poilievre moved on to another topic with his sixth question might suggest that even the Conservatives realize that this debate is only going to move so many votes at this point — opinions about banning firearms might be fairly well set. But that may be of limited solace for a government that wants to be able to claim competence and credibility, especially when it comes to public expenditures.
As Carney said in New York on Tuesday, the buyback program is something he inherited, but it is also something he ran on. He was perhaps not in much of a position to abandon it when he became prime minister in March. But now he needs to pull it off.
And Carney’s public safety minister has managed to make that even harder.
